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A RANGE OF 7mm SIGNALS CAN BE MADE TO MADE TO ORDER, WITH PRICES STARTING FROM 65 WITHOUT ILLUMINATED LAMPS OR 75 WITH. 

FOR PRICES OF SERVO FITTED SIGNALS, PLEASE EMAIL OR PHONE WITH YOUR REQUIREMENTS. DUE TO PACKAGING REQUIREMENTS ALL SIGNALS WILL BE SUBJECT TO P&P.

SEE BELOW FOR GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS AND AN IDEA OF LIKELY COSTS

 

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I have been a signalman on BR, Railtrack and Network rail now for nearly 40 years, and I have developed a passion for semaphore signals and traditional signalboxes.

While working at Chester PSB I got involved with a friends gauge 0 layout (The Saltney Railway) and offered to build signals for it. As there were going to be quite a few upper quadrants, to save money I made my own masters for signal arms, lamps, backlight blinders etc and set about casting almost all the parts I needed.

I have produced some 20 signals for the layout so far, including some ex GW types built from kits with about the same again yet to do.

Visitors to the layout have subsequently ordered a few signals and I have now built over 100 for various customers in the last 8 years!

Each signal is designed and built to be workable by your chosen method and can be fitted with LEDs in the lampcases (if required). The arms and lampcases are whitemetal. The posts are brass tube or etched brass from MSE. The ladders, coloured lenses and post caps are from MSE or Scale signal Supply.

Pictures of a small number of them are shown in the centre column. Click on each thumbnail for an enlarged view or click on the gallery button to see more.

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So how do I order a signal then?

Have a think about your track diagram and your needs and ring me up for a chat or send an email with a few ideas.

Some basic design points to bear in mind when designing your signals.

  1. Where is it going to be placed? Would a driver be able to see it? Take into consideration bridges, tunnels, canopies and other scenic bits and bobs.

  2. Will it physically fit where you want it to be? What's under the baseboard and will you have room for the operating mechanism?

  3. What's the signal for? Plain line, junctions left or right, parallel running lines, shunt moves etc?

  4. This is not a hard and fast rule, but generally, a bracket signal controlling diverging routes from one track will have it's dolls or posts a scale 6ft apart, and a bracket signal controlling parallel running lines converging to one line (at the end of a loop or slow line or exiting a bay platform) will have the dolls or posts a scale 11ft apart.

  5. What's the best way of operating the signals? I used to use solenoids (point motors) but found the operation to be a bit harsh, especially on the bracket signal linkages. I now favour using micro-servos as used in the smaller radio controlled aircraft. These are as cheap if not cheaper than point motors but of course need electronic "drivers" to control them. These are available cheaply if you are a member of MERG the model railway electronics group or from model railway electronics retailers such as "Heathcote"  Megapoints, Scale Signal Supply and GF Controls.

Alternatively, you can maybe get an idea of what you need from the chart below. It is by no means an exhaustive list but may help a little. The functions of one type of signal may be fitted to another configuration. You may wish to consult your books and photo collections for further inspiration!

CLICK ON THE GALLERY BUTTON AT THE TOP TO SEE SOME OF THE SIGNALS I HAVE BUILT!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fancy some RTR signals for your layout?

As stated above, I can build a range of 7mm scale signals to order.

The signals I have built so far are mainly ex LMS tubular post upper quadrants but I've branched out to encompass any UK railway semaphores. I can work to photographs and drawings or I can design signals as required but the main dimensions for the Upper quadrants are from the excellent and now recently re-printed book, "LMS Signals" by L.G.Warburton. Click on the thumbnails in the centre column to the left to get an idea of the end result.

The general specification for example, an LMS tubular post upper quadrant is as follows:-

Main posts from brass tube, soldered.

Brass sheet baseplate, standard size 50mm X 32mm

Whitemetal castings for arms, lamps, some  of the bracket supports, backblinders, post caps, and other sundry post fittings.

Machined brass trimmers (the horizontal supports to which each of the "dolls" are fixed)

0.8mm plywood for landings/staging.

Brass wire, strip and tube for all necessary operating rods and cross shafts. "Return to danger" springs fitted if required.

OPERATING RODS EXTEND ABOUT 2" BELOW BASEBOARD LEVEL TO ALLOW FITTING OF YOUR OWN PREFERRED OPERATING METHOD OR SERVOS CAN BE FITTED ON REQUEST AT EXTRA COST.

Brass or nickel-silver wire for safety railings around landings.

Etched brass ladders.

 Warm white LEDs fitted to each lamp  and  a suitable resistor wired to positive side with rest of signal as negative (if requested.)

Sprayed with primer then finished with appropriate enamels. Light weathering at no extra cost.

How much are they likely to cost?

As a rule an illuminated tubular construction straight post signal will cost (75) with one arm plus (30) per additional arm to a max of 3 arms.(4 if all are shunt arms)

A similar specification bracket signal will cost (120) with one arm plus (30) per additional arm to a maximum of 4 dolls or posts with a maximum of 6 arms in total over entire signal.

The maximum number of arms on each signal reflects what I can reliably guarantee to work! More than that is possible but the workings become a bit too crowded and cumbersome.

As stated elsewhere, a drive rod to approx 2" below baseboard level is provided but operation of the signals is left for the customer to provide their own preferred system or servos can be fitted on request.

LMS Pratt Truss Gantries now available to special order

The lighter version of the LMS Pratt Truss gantry will be available in 2017 with prices starting at 195 with one doll/arm although each gantry will have to be specially priced according to specification.

Feel free to email or phone to discuss your requirements. Full details in the contacts and ordering page.

I can only offer these prices on my own specifications but I will build from kits if requested. These will of course be more expensive due to higher initial costs. I can also work to photographs or drawings if supplied.  

 

   
   
TYPE TYPICAL OR SAMPLE CONFIGURATION  GENERALLY FOR? SIZES (scale feet) LIKELY COST
STRAIGHT POST STOP SIGNAL photo Controlling straight ahead movements along plain line, at ends of platforms, loops etc 17'to 30' From 65
STRAIGHT POST DISTANT SIGNAL Gives an indication of what the next stop signal will be showing 17'to 30' From 65
OFFSET BRACKET LEFT OR RIGHT (with up to 3 dolls and a total of 6 arms) photo Used where a straight post signal would not be visible to the driver or where a straight post could not physically  be situated 16'6" to cross trimmers, 15' width, up to total height of between 20'-35' From 120
BALANCED BRACKET(with up to 3 dolls and a total of 6 arms) photo Controls diverging routes at junctions (dolls 6' apart) or parallel lines converging to one (dolls 11' apart). 16'6" to cross trimmers, 15' width, up to total height of between 20'-35' From 145
SHUNT SIGNAL (with up to 4 arms) photo With smaller shunt arms, for controlling diverging routes in sidings and yards. 17'-25' From 65
RUNNING LINE TO LOOP photo For use when a loop line or goods line diverges from a main line.   From 105
STOP & DISTANT SIGNAL photo Where 2 signalboxes are close together, the starting signal of one signalbox may have the distant signal of the next box underneath it.   From 95
         
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